BTW, respectable disagreement and debate are fine here. In this way we will all learn something.
Just some reactions to your post. To come later.
1. By the moment of the question, I focused on the question that the question actually becomes a “burning issue” for the question. I think I got this expression from Paul Kiranan, then (and possibly now) horror model in the skyscript. Although we suddenly participated, at one point he was really kind to give me a PM tutorial.
When this question actually clicks on the place, Y’All is picking up alternative means.
Because I think horrific (and astrology usually, pre-AE) is in the mind of the astrologer, I do not hope that good results are chained for just a definition of the right moment.
I suspect that such internet forums have shifted a lot of “moments” when OP and chart are posted.
2. Given the uncertainty about the exact moment in the mind of Quarant (which I expect to leave) it makes it perfect for me to see the perfect and late degree as a warning against the decision. In addition, on the days of your, watches cannot be counted for reliability. At one time that was at a few minutes away, he could compete with ascending in a different signal.
I use “It’s to the Its the Its the Its the Its the Its The Its The Its is the is the is the is given is the to that two tail”, and somehow this question is no longer viable with increasing the late degree.
3. Ray: Daman of Froll, I think it is a historical myth that horror astrology was very heavy towards royal customers. Certainly the emperors had astrologer (eg John D) of the court, but there are all kinds of evidence of common people (eg case studies) common people consulted astrologers. It goes back to helenistic astrologers (cf. vettius Valens, and Cramer’s Astrology in Roman law and politics,
4. I am impressed by Tsmall’s comment that a horror chart cannot give what a nut chart does not promise. Here in the community of astrologers (under former administrator Tim Wilson) we have to remind people not to post their nutritious here, but read them to keep my charts separated on the board. Repeated newbies seem to see the horror actually based on the stand-alone netal chart. Should our policy be changed?
Later, but please continue!